Mango Street-"And Some More"
The House on Mango Street
Journal Guide for Chapter Sixteen
“And Some More”
Answer the following questions in complete sentences.
Questions
1. Why do the girls argue about the names of things?
2. Why does the argument disintegrate into name calling? Are the girls actually fighting or are they exercising their wit?
Themes and Symbols
1. Clouds have spiritual implications and meanings for Esperanza. How do the changing clouds represent the girls and their behavior?
2. Clouds are mentioned in several chapters. Find the other references to clouds and determine what clouds represent to Esperanza.
Style
Cisneros has a poetic style. She incorporates both vivid imagery and spare prose. She uses both to create a picture of the narrator’s world.
1. Cisneros does not use quotation marks in the dialogue between the four girls. What other technique does she use to create the sense of an active, give and take conversation between the girls?
2. How does the dialogue create a sense of the friendship between the girls?
Personal Response
Describe an afternoon spending time with your friends.
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PERIOD 1
Questions
1. The girls argue because they are stubborn. Each girl thinks they are right and don't want to hear any different.
2. The argument turns into name calling because to these girls, they take being told they are wrong as an insult. It is a battle of fighting and wit. They probably are agitated with eachother and need to prove themselves anyway they can.
Themes and Symbols
1. Girls are constantly evolving, and changing just like the clouds. The clouds change form just like girls can. One second a cloud looks like an icecream cone and the next second it can look like knife. Just like how the girls are calm and having a nice time and then they are fighting.
Style
1. The way Cisnero spaces the dialoge makes it confusing. You really aren't sure who is talking unless you really pay attention. Gives it the feeling that all the girls are talking at once and that is probably what they are doing.
2.The girls are comfortable enough with eachother to call eachother names and yell. Not saying that thats okay to do, but you wouldn't go up to a perfect stranger and start insulting them and talking about the clouds.
Personal Response
An afternoon with my friends is either laid back, or full of adventures. One afternoon during the summer a group of us went down into the riverbed behind kellie's house. We had to climb down a wall to get into the riverbed. After walking around down there and finding some interesting things, we found a tunnel going into the side of the wall leading to who knows where. It was pretty big, we all had to hunch over to walk through it but we didn't mind. It was getting dark when we found it so we were going to meet up the next day to see where it led to.
The next day we met up and we all grabbed eachothers pant loops to form a chain and walk through. We brought flashlights and everything. It was pretty scary, it was straight out of the movie "It" when they go down into the sewers, just not quite as big. The tunnel led us all the way to another street. We didn't find treasure or battle any monsters, but it was fun anticipating and letting our imaginations run wild.
Questions
1.They argue about the names because they all have different opinions on how many and what names things should have.
2.They start to argue because of the difference in opinion that they have and they try to impose their opinions on each other.I think that they are both fighting and exercising their wit.
Themes and symbols
1.The changing clouds represent the girls because like the girls they change and the difference in personalities clash.
2.I think that clouds represent to her the difference in people and they bring her a certain comfort.
Style
1.The author keeps an active conversation by using the technique she said.She writes who is talking rather than using quotation marks.
2.It shows friendship because they are comfortable letting each other know how they feel.
Personal Response
1.A day with my friends usually starts out by us going to eat.We stay there for a long time until they want to kick us out because we are so loud.Then we go bother another place with our loud selves.We go to random places to pass time.We end up home very late.
davisL per 4
1. It starts out as this argument about how many words eskimos have for snow and then they argue about alot of other words..
2. It does because the other sisters insult esperanza then it goes from there.they are doing both in a way they are arguing but they are thinking of new insults thats exercise' their wit.
3. They sisters sort of agrre on the 10 names for clouds. and they dont argue for that moment.
4. Clouds to esperanza are things that are just pretty and beautiful and represent what she wants her life to be which is care free.
5. She uses the symbol... and puts them in the form of a conversation.
6. It shows they are friends sometimes but not that good friends.
7.An afternoon with my friends is fun we usually relax for a whil playing games then go to the hottub.
J Calderon P. 1
Questions
1. They argue about the names of things because they all want to be right or think their name is better.
2. It disintergrates into name calling because it's the only thing a kid can come up with to retaliate with another child. I think the children are just exercising their wit.
Themes and Symbols
1. The clouds change just like the girls will in some years.
2. In Darius and the clouds She talks about how the clouds are a way of escaping from the things around her.
Style
1. The way the girls speak in short simple sentences or phrases.
2. They all argue and talk to eachother without hesitation,like friends do, they are comfortable with one another.
Personal Response
1. We talk alot and eat junk food.We talk about school ,very little, boys and boyfriend "issues". We also talk about things we have done in the past or things we will do in the future.
Questions:
1.Each of the girls think that they are right so their arguing about their own opinions.
2.When the girls are arguing, the name calling feels like an insult to them so they start fighting.
Themes and Symbols:
1.It represents their behaviors showing that each girl is diffrent in their own way, just like the clouds, not one is the same.
2. I think that to esperanza the clouds symbolizes people and their diffrences.
Style:
1.This chapter was very confusing to me. It is hard to tell who is saying what. When the girls are arguing i think that they are all saying things at the same time so there is not any quotation marks.
2.Towards the end of the chapter one of the girls say that they should leave, but then the other girls said they were just kidding. This shows that they didn't mean what they said to eachother.
Personal Response:
An afternoon with my friends is pretty fun. We just baciclly hangout out and talk about whatever, go to the movies, go to eat, or even the beach. My friends and I love to go get ice cream.
Questions
1. The girls argue because they don’t know how to express their opinions without an undertone of certainty.
2. The girls lack of maturity and skills about how to be heard are what lead them to resort to name calling, the girls are exercising their wit the only way they know how.
Themes and Symbols
1. The change of the clouds go along with the general mood of the conversation and when Esperanza finally mentions rain clouds then the conversation turns to arguing.
2. Clouds come up during Edna’s Ruthie when Esperanza is talking about how Ruthie sees beautiful things like when she sees something random in the clouds shape.
Style
Cisneros has a poetic style. She incorporates both vivid imagery and spare prose. She uses both to create a picture of the narrator’s world.
1.The interchanging conversation that switches from the arguing and the naming of random names makes the reader feel hurried like something fast is happening.
2. When the girls are still talking throughout the changing names you can sense that they are always together and are close to eachother even when everything is changing.
Personal Response
A typical afternoon with my friends would consist of a lot of talking and discussing and then we would try to find something to do. We are constantly looking for some kind of adventure or new way to feel. I’m so glad that my friends are who they are because no matter what we will be doing we know and appreciate that we are experiencing it with eachother and how everyday we spend together we grow closer with eachother.
Period 1
Questions
1. They argue because they think that what they say is the right answer. They don't believe anoyone but themselves.
2. They start calling each other names because they get made that they arent right. I feel as if they really are fighting because they take what the other girls say offensively.
Themes and Symbols
1. Clouds have spiritual implications and meanings for Esperanza. Clouds change just like the girls are.If someone says something wrong, they can change just as fast as clouds can.
2. In the chapter Darius and the Clouds it says that she finds a way to escape and forget about things when she looks at clouds.
Style
1. Cisneros seperates the paragraphs everytime a different girl talks. This way, it's not so confusing.
2. The dialogue creates a sense of the friendship between the girls by making it seem that they are really close towards each other.
Personal Response
An afternoon being with my friends would probably be hanging out at one anothers house, getting ready then going out for the night. That's pretty much it.♠
KMolter Per1
1. The girls argue because they don’t know how to express their opinions without a real example or source of there names.
2. The girls lack of maturity is what lead them to name calling.
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hemes and Symbols
1. The change of the clouds go along with the mood of the conversation and when Esperanza mentions rain clouds then the conversation turns to arguing.
2. Clouds come up when Esperanza is talking about how Ruthie sees beautiful things like when she sees something random in the clouds shape.
Style
1.The different conversations that switches from the arguing and the naming of random names.
2. When the girls are still talking throughout the changing names you can sense that they are always together and are close to eachother even when everything is changing you are always going to fight with friends.
Personal Response
A afternoon with friends is just like hanging out with them or going somewhere basically just having fun with the people you love and care about.
Iesapada Per.1
I.
1)The girls argue about the different names of things because all of them think in different ways.
2)The arguement turns into name calling because children tend to angry once opposing outlooks clash. They weren't actually fighting, they were just excercising their wit.
II.
1)Each of the girls has something different to say about each kind of cloud. Nenny names the clouds like hman names while Esperanza names them by scientific formation.
2)The clouds represent some form of stability in her life because she is always moving and has different friends.
III.
1)Cisneros uses elipses after Nenny's lists of names to show that while Esperanza and Rachel are arguing there is background noise of Nenny.
2)The dialogue shows friendship between the girls because only friends can argue like that.
IV.
1)An afternoon spending time with my friends probably consists of staying in one of our houses and listening to music or playing video games. If we want to get out, we might walk around the town or drive down to Metro pointe or Triangle Square.
SteeleD Per 4
1. They argue about the names of things because of what they think of the various objects
2. The fighting begins because they do not agree with one another.
Themes and Symbols
1. It shows how the girls are changing constantly, just like the clouds
Style
1. Repetition of the names, the way the girls adress one another
2. It shows light-heated dialogue between them all
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